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Question? Did Jesus rise from the dead?
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Is it fact or fiction? Does it matter? What’s the evidence? And what answers would you present to a nonChristian friend who asks, “Isn’t Jesus’ resurrection just a myth?”
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How do we know that he was really dead when they took Him off the cross? And after His death and burial, were Jesus’ resurrection appearances to over 500 people, just psychological events in their minds, or real physical appearances of the risen Jesus?
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My guest today who will answer these questions is former atheist, turned Christian, Mr. Lee Strobel, former award winning legal editor of the Chicago Tribune, and New York Times best selling author of nearly 20 books. We invite you to hear the amazing evidence for Jesus’ resurrection on this special edition, of the John Ankerberg Show.
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Welcome to our program. We’ve got a great one today. My guest today is Lee Strobel. He’s a graduate from Yale University with his law degree. Then, for 13 years, he was the awardwinning legal editor of the Chicago Tribune. But what we’re talking about is his story, because he was a skeptic for most of his life. Then it took him two years to investigate the claims of Jesus Christ and to know what to do with it. The evidence brought him to faith in Jesus Christ and what we are talking about is that evidence. I want you to hear it. And, Lee, let’s tell the story just a little bit from the beginning here.
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Well, I became an atheist when I was young, in my teens, and married a woman who was agnostic. She became a follower of Jesus, which freaked me out, and I thought was going to lead to divorce. But when I saw positive changes in her and really exposed myself to the Christian message for the first time, I thought, you know what, this is worth my time and effort to investigate, to scrutinize, to see whether or not it withstands examination from a skeptic. And so I embarked on what turned out to be a two year investigation of Christianity and other faith systems as well.
Nun ich wu Jugendlich heiratete. S Jesus, was befürchtet würde. Abe Veränderu ersten Mal dachte, das wäre, sie z und zu sch eines Skep ich mit me des Christe Glaubenssy Again, tell them how skeptical you were, though, Erzählen S and how you tracked down evidence, even as the und wie sie legal editor of the Chicago Tribune. Rechtsreda Beweise un Yeah, I mentioned we used to pride ourselves on Ich hatte e being skeptical and actually had a sign in our Skepsis ge newsroom that said, “If your mother says she Schild in u hängen hat loves you, check it out!” In other words, where Mutter sag are the facts? Where is the proof? Where is the evidence? And that is who I was. I mean, you can es!“ Mit an gibt es? We imagine, John, you put together journalism and law, you know what kind of a jerk, of a skeptic gibt es? So vorstellen, that you get. But that is who I was. And it was very natural for me, because this is what I did for Journalism kombinier a living at the Chicago Tribune. I checked out things to see if they were true. So I would call Skeptiker d experts, I would study archaeology, I would look ich. Es lag at ancient history, I would go over questions of alltäglicher manuscript evidence and so forth. It was a very Ich habe D natural thing for me to do. herauszufi Experten a mir die ant Manuskrip etwas sehr But what was different about this, John, it was Aber was h the biggest story I had every pursued. I mean, I die bedeut had done some big ones, I won some big awards untersucht for my investigations, but nothing had as much schon wich riding on it as this question of, number one, did einige Prei Jesus every claim to be the Son of God, and if He gewonnen 2
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schwerwie Jesus jema sein und w belegt und Toten aufe der Kernpu Yeah, and you set out actually not to prove that it Ja, und Ihr was true but to disprove it. sondern es Yeah, I mean, in a lot of ways, having lived such Ja, in vieler an ugly, immoral life, the last thing I wanted, meines häs frankly, was to be held accountable for it. The nicht dafür last thing I wanted was God looking over my was ich wo shoulder. I wanted to do what I wanted to do; I Schulter sc wanted to live the way I wanted to live. wollte, ich And you also realized that if you actually Ihnen war believed in Christ then there would have to be glauben, w some changes made. Yeah, I realized that, well, my wife used to say, “I Ja, das stim have no hope. I have no hope for my husband.” habe keine Seriously, she told people after she became a Hoffnung f Christian, “I have no hope. He is the hard headed, nachdem s hard hearted, legal editor of the Chicago Tribune. habe keine I have no hope that he is ever going to bend his hartherzig knee to Jesus Christ.” Tribune. Ic jemals vor Alright, rehash point number one Okay, kom zurück. Did Jesus claim to be the Son of God? Absolutely, Hat Jesus b I think the record is absolutely clear to anyone sein? Abso who is honest and examines the record. sind für jed liest und u But you didn’t think that going in? Anfangs w Meinung? No, I thought this was legend that was created in Nein, ich d the many, many decades after His life. But right vielen Jahr there in the earliest records, the first biography entstanden written by Mark, based on the eyewitness Aufzeichnu account of the apostle Peter; I mean, go right Markus, ba back to the beginning and it shows that Jesus Augenzeug called Himself the Son of Man, which was not – Können S just a claim of humanity, it was a claim of dass Jesus divinity. Because the Son of Man was a figure in womit er s Daniel 7 who had these divine qualities, who sondern au would judge humankind, whose kingdom would Menschens endure forever, who was worshiped by all der diese g 3
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Menschhei für immer vergöttert der in der würde. These are attributes of the divine. And then, of Dies sind d course, in His trial, when He was asked, “Are you Als er wäh the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One? Are you wurde: „Bi the Messiah? Are you the Son of God?” “I AM” are Gesegneten the first two words out of his mouth. And then der Sohn G he applies this Daniel 7 imagery to himself again. beiden Wo And how does the High Priest respond? By wendet er saying blasphemy. Why? Because Jesus, a mere selbst an. W man, was claiming to be God. Hohepries Warum? D behauptete And yet that wasn’t enough for me. It wasn’t Dennoch w enough that He claimed it, it wasn’t enough that für mich. E His teachings were profound. I mean, there are a behauptete lot of profound teachers through history, let’s Lehren fun face it. The question to me was, can you back it eine Meng up? Can you prove it? What can you do? And Geschichte according to the text He performed miracles. But du das bele you know what, that’s one thing, to read about it Was kanns that it happened 2000 years ago. But I needed hat er Wun something that went beyond a miracle that was; es ist maybe could have been a sleight of hand. I vor 2000 Ja etwas, das needed something that was indisputable. vielleicht Z unbestreit And so you fastened on the big one. Darum hab vorgenomm I did. The resurrection is the lynchpin of Das habe ic Christianity. I mean the apostle Paul said that, der Knackp and everybody knows it. But Gerald O’Collins, meine, der the theologian, once said that Christianity jeder weiß sagte, dass without the resurrection is not Christianity without its final chapter, it is not Christianity at Wiederauf all. So everything rides on did Jesus return from ohne letzte the dead and thus prove that He is the Son of kein Christ God? ob Jesus vo ist und dam ist? Alright, so how did you get to the evidence? Gut, wie si gekommen 4
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Well, I looked at two years worth of evidence, but to summarize it, I looked at five words that begin with the letter “e”. The first one is execution: was Jesus dead when they took Him down off the cross? I thought, well, maybe He fainted and then was taken to the tomb and the cool air resuscitated Him; so you don’t have a miraculous resurrection, you just have a fortuitous resuscitation. Well, you examine what does crucifixion involve, and you realize it could not be so, that He must have been dead.
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Why? Well, first of all He was brutally flogged by the Roman authorities with whips that had jagged bones imbedded in them and balls of lead. And one eyewitness to a Roman flogging said the very muscles and sinews and bowels of the victim were laid open to exposure. This is incredibly brutal. In fact, you remember the movie The Passion of the Christ?
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Right. In fact, you remember the movie The Passion of the Christ? I got to know Mel Gibson during the filming of that movie. And when the movie got an R rating because of the violence and the brutality of the beating and the crucifixion of Jesus, I thought it was unfortunate. I thought it would limit the audience in the movie. So I said to Mel, thinking.. Giving him a little advice…
Yeah, a little advice. I said, you know, you could have toned down the violence. And he looked at me and he said, “Dude, I did tone it down.” And he was right. What he meant was, “I toned it down from what actually took place.” People couldn’t stomach it, people couldn’t face it if he presented historically, in an accurate way, what actually took place. I interviewed medical 5
Nun, ich ha Zeitraum v kurz zusam Wörter, die Das erste w als sie ihn vielleicht i hat ihn in d kalte Luft h dann keine Wiederauf glückliche untersucht und realisi dass er tot Warum? Erstens wu Römern au mit gezack versehen w römischen Muskeln, S sichtbar w Erinnern S Christi“? Sicher. Erinnern S Christi“? Ic Dreharbeit eine „ab 18 und der Br Kreuzigun schade. Ich Publikums also zu Me Sie haben i gegeben... Genau, ein weißt du, d runterschr mich an un bereits“. Un war, dass e Die Mensch können, hä
experts who said that Jesus was in hypovolemic shock after the beating, that is, shock from a great loss of blood. And then to have nails driven through your wrists and your feet, to be hoisted on the cross, which puts incredible stress on your chest muscles so that you can’t breathe. Your lungs are locked in an inhale position. So the only way you can breathe is by pushing yourself up with your feet. And, of course, then you are scraping your bloodied back against the coarse wood of the cross. And then exhale, take a new breath and then settle down and then have to push up again and breathe and so forth. I mean, until exhaustion took over.
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dargestellt befragt, die hypovoläm muss - eine Blutverlust Handgelen ans Kreuz Brustmusk wodurch e Lungen ve Einatmung Atmen, ist Füßen. Dan blutigen Rü Kreuzes. U und wiede atmen und In fact, that is why when the Romans wanted to Auf diese W hasten the death of someone, they would take a von jeman metal rod and just shatter their shin bones so einen Meta Unterbeink they could no longer push up, and they would just suffocate, in a sense. Their heart would give nicht länge erstickte. I out because of the stresses of suffocation. Even the Journal of the American Medical Association Erstickens amerikanis did a review of the historical data and said that clearly Jesus was dead even before the wound to die historis His side was inflicted, a wound which, by the schon tot w way, punctured His heart and His lung. Seite gesto übrigens s durchstach And, in fact, we have five secular sources that Wir haben also confirm. You have Tacitus who is an early bestätigen historian; you have Josephus, an early historian; Historiker; even the Jewish Talmud says that Jesus was sogar der j durch Aufh killed by hanging; that is, hanging on the cross. am Kreuz. So, John, go to the most skeptical New Testament scholars in the world, go to Gerd skeptischs Testament Ludemann, atheist, Vanderbilt University; he will tell you. John Dominic Crossan, a very liberal Ludemann Christian, will tell you that of all the facts we er sagt es I sehr libera know from ancient history, one of the ones for von allen F which there is solid bedrock is that Jesus was dead when He was taken off the cross. Geschichte Kreuz geno ist, zu dem 6
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Yeah. I mean they didn’t have to be rocket scientists to know He was dead. If you pushed yourself up, you were able to breathe; but when you were hanging down for past 15 minutes, going into 30 minutes and you didn’t go up, you were dead because you had no breath in those lungs.
Ja. Ich mein Raketenwi dass er tot können sie runterhäng zu 30 Minu dann sind Lunge hab Yeah, and think of this. I mean, even if Jesus Ja, und noc somehow did survive it and wanted to go against Jesus es irg all of His teaching, to fool people into thinking seine Lehr He was resurrected and somehow got out of the Menschen linen wrappings that He was wrapped in, and auferstand somehow rolled the rock away from the mouth Leinen bef of the tomb, and somehow got past the guards at irgendwie geschoben His tomb, think of the condition He would have Wachen vo been in. He would have been in such terrible critical condition that there is no way in the Sie mal dar world that the disciples would have seen Him gewesen w and said, “Oh, this is wonderful. Let’s build a schrecklich nichts in d worldwide movement based on the glorious hope that some day we will have a resurrection und gesagt wundervol body and return from the dead.” Bewegung aufbauen, Toten zurü Yeah. Ja. They would have looked at Him and called 911 Sie hätten and said get Him some help! My goodness, He is angerufen a mess! So there is absolutely no historical Meine Güte support for the idea that Jesus somehow also absolu survived the cross. Jesus irgen What was your second point? Was ist ihr Second point were the early accounts that we Der zweite have. I used to think that the idea that Jesus rose die wir hab from the dead was a myth, a legend, that grew Auferstehu up in the many decades after His life. Well, what Legende, d I found is we have incredibly early historical entstanden support for the resurrection. Not only is it in all herausgefu four gospels, but even prior to that we have geschichtli haben. Sie preserved for us a creed recited by the earliest Christians. And this creed is preserved for us by Evangelien the apostle Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:3ff. What wir ein Gla does it say? It says that Jesus died. Why? For our Christen. U sins. He was buried; He was resurrected on the wurde für 7
third day. And then it mentions the names of eyewitnesses including skeptics whose lives were changed 180 degrees because they encountered the resurrected Jesus. 10.51-11.40
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Korinther steht, dass unsere Sün dritten Tag erwähnt er inklusive S 180° dreht wiederaufe Now John, this creed of the church has been John, diese dated back by scholars from a wide range of wird durch theological beliefs to as early as 2-5 years after theologisch the life of Jesus. And, of course, the beliefs must nach dem L precede the making up of the creed; therefore, Natürlich m they go right back to the cross itself. So we don’t Bekenntni diese auf’s have some legend that grew up in the many also keine decades later. We have a news flash from entstanden ancient history. In fact A.N. Sherwin-White, the great classical historian from Oxford University, aus frühen did a study at the rate at which legend grew up Historiker in the ancient world. And he determined that the Universitä passage of two generations of time was not even lange es in enough for legend to wipe out a solid core of Legende en nicht Mal z historical truth. We don’t have the passage of two generations of time here. We have um einen s Wahrheit a something that goes right back to the event itself. This is incredibly powerful historical allerdings evidence that it is true that Jesus did return from vergangen the dead. zum Ereign ein unglau Jesus von d Alright, we are going to take a break and we are Okay, wir m going to come back to the other three point. You uns dann d have got the eyewitness, and you have got the haben die A empty tomb, and you have got the emergence of die Entsteh auf keinen the church. And you are not going to want to miss this. I mean, when he lays out this evidence, er die Bew you need to hear this. So stick with us, we will be hören. Blei right back. zurück. Alright, we are back. We are talking with Lee Alles klar, Strobel, who is the former legal editor of the unterhalte Chicago Tribune. He was a skeptic, a straight out ehemaligen atheist. And as he started to investigate the Tribune. Er claims of Christianity, the claims of Christ, he Atheist. Als came down to the key point, namely the des Christe resurrection of Jesus from the dead. Did it zu untersu 8
happen? And he is talking about the points underneath that question, did Jesus rise from the dead. The evidence that started to persuade him that, goodness sakes, possibly this thing actually happened. Alright, you already talked about the fact of… well, review for us here. 12.33-13.09
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First, the execution: that Jesus was definitely dead when He was taken down from the cross. And then the early account. This is not a legend that developed a long time ago; we have extremely early accounts that affirm the resurrection. Then I go on to the third e which is the empty tomb. And the most powerful fact about the empty tomb of all, I think, is that nobody in the first century was claiming it was anything but empty. In other words, everybody conceded it was empty. The authorities tried to spread the story that the guards were asleep, and the disciples stole the body, which made no sense, because they had no motive means or opportunity. Besides which that is admitting the body is gone.
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And if you were sleeping how did you know it was the disciples? Exactly. The story never made sense from the beginning, nobody believes it today. But the bottom line is, even the skeptics had to come up with a story to try to explain it away, even though they were unsuccessful in doing that. Yeah, plus 75% of the scholars, critical scholars, out there, they believe that is a historical fact.
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Yeah, and that includes the skeptical scholars.
Yeah. That’s Christian, atheist. The people who really study this issue, 75% agree the tomb was empty. Okay, so you have got another point in the historical record, you have got an empty tomb of Jesus. So that raises the question, what in the 9
Kernpunkt den Toten. spricht übe Einzelheite Toten aufe überzeugt passiert ist Fakt... nunj Erstens die tot, als er v Dann die e Legende, d haben extr Auferstehu zum dritte überzeuge dass kein E Jahrhunde nicht leer w waren sich Obrigkeite die Wache Jünger den gemacht ha noch Geleg der Körper Wenn sie g sie, dass es Genau. Die keinen Sin heute dara selbst die E es nicht ge Ja, außerde kritischen historische Ja, und daz Gelehrten. Ja. Christen u die dieses glauben, da Okay, sie h in den hist haben das
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And the next e, therefore, is eyewitnesses. And what we have is 515 people who encountered the resurrected Jesus. And we have Paul talking about his own experience. We have, you know, the earliest account that we have of all of the resurrection, which is this 1 Corinthians 15 creed that we talked about of the early church. That mentions 500 people at once encountering him. And then I love what it says, it says, “Oh, excuse me. By the way, a lot of these guys are still around. If you don’t believe me, go talk to them. Check it out yourself.” No way they would have said that if it wasn’t true. Yeah, you could verify it. Exactly. So if you were to call to a witness stand all of the people who encountered the resurrected Jesus and just cross examined each one of them for 15 minutes apiece, and go around the clock, you would be sitting here for 126 straight hours listening to eyewitness accounts. How many people, after hearing 126 straight hours, would walk away saying, “Yeah, I don’t believe it!” You know, I mean… You used to sit in court and do that. Exactly. I’ve seen people sent to the death chamber on a fraction of this kind of evidence. So I think there is powerful evidence that Jesus encountered these individuals whose lives were transformed, including Saul the persecutor of Christians who became Paul the great missionary. Why? Because of the resurrection. The half-brother of Jesus, James, who was a doubter of Jesus’ divinity during His lifetime becomes a leader of the local church. Why? Because, 1 Corinthians 15 says, he encountered the resurrected Jesus.
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dann die F passiert ist Daher ist d Wir haben wiederaufe Wir haben Erfahrung Aufzeichnu haben, 1. K Glaubensb das wir ges Menschen, haben. Ich „Übrigens, am Leben. sprecht mi Niemand h wahr gewe Ja, sie konn Genau. We wiederaufe Zeugenstan Minuten ru würden sie Augenzeug Menschen, anhören, w glaube ich Sie saßen i sowas geta Genau. Ich aufgrund e Beweisen z denke, das dass Jesus deren Lebe Saul, dem V Paulus, dem Warum? A Der Halbbr seinen Leb Göttlichkei örtlichen K Korinther dem wiede
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Alright, then you have the emergence of the church. The emergence of the church. And what is amazing about that is in the very city where Jesus had been put to death the disciples are going around a few weeks later saying, “Hey, He arose from the dead.” Now, how do you sell that to people if they are there and they know better? Instead what we see is the disciples appealing to the common knowledge that their audiences had. Peter got up in the very same city where Jesus had been put to death a few weeks later and looked at people and he says, “You remember Jesus. He did miracles in your midst. You know that He did.” And then he said this: Jesus God raised from the dead, “To which we are all witnesses.” [Acts 3:15] Well, how did they respond? Did they say, “Peter, come on. You are exaggerating. You are making this stuff up”? No! History shows that on that day 3000 people said, “Peter, we know you are telling the truth. What do we do?” And they found forgiveness and grace through Jesus Christ and the church is miraculously born in the very same city where He was put to death. How do you explain that if this is legend, or if this is stuff they were making up, they were exaggerating, they were lying about? I think that is powerful stuff.
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Die Entsteh faszinieren Stadt, in de ein paar W und sagten auferstand Menschen, wissen? St Jünger an d Publikums paar Woch auf, in der den Mensc erinnert eu Wunder be hat.“ Dann auferweck Kapitel 3 V geantwort übertreibs Nein! Die G Tag 3000 M wissen das sollen wir Anmut dur entstand a gleichen St würden Sie Legende w übertriebe sehr aussa It is. Alright so what happened when you Das ist es. brought that to a conclusion? Schlussfolg Well, I mean after two years and there is so Nun, nach much more that we could talk about… worüber w Yeah, and we will… Ja, und das And so you get to that point. And it was Sie komme November 8, 1981. And I went into my room by 8. Novemb myself. It was a Sunday afternoon. And I took the meinem Zi yellow legal pad like I had been taught at law Nachmitta school. And I put a line down the middle. And on Notizblock one side I put the evidence I had seen that is Ich zog ein 11
convincing me that Jesus is the Son of God and proved it by returning from the dead. And on the other side the negative evidence. And I am writing page after page after page. And finally I put down my pen and I said, wait a minute, in light of the avalanche of evidence that points so powerfully towards the truth of Christianity, it would have required more faith for me to maintain my atheism than for me to become a Christian. Because to maintain my atheism I would have to swim upstream against this torrent of evidence flowing the other way. I was trained in journalism and law to respond to truth. And I couldn’t deny it, I couldn’t swim upstream anymore. 17.10-18.01
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Seite schri überzeugte und es mit bewies. Au Beweise. Ic Schlussend und sagte, Lawine von Wahrheit d bräuchte ic meinen Ath Christ zu w beizubehal gegen dies schwimme Journalist u Wahrheit h bestreiten, stromaufw And so I just, I said, “Lord Jesus I believe, I Da sagte ic believe that you are the Son of God who proved du der Soh it by returning from the dead. But what do I do, Wiederauf was soll ich what do I do?” And I remember somebody had pointed out a verse to me: John 1:12, and I erinnerte m looked it up. John 1:12: “But as many as received jemand gez him to them he gave the right to become the schlug ihn children of God, even to them that believed in his aufnahmen name.” And I realized that believing in Him Kinder zu w Namen gla entailed receiving Him. It meant not just having Glaube an intellectual agreement with church doctrine, it meant receiving Jesus as my forgiver and leader. ermöglicht And so I prayed, and I turned from a life of intellektue kirchlichen immorality and sin, and I confessed it, and I received forgiveness for that from Jesus Christ. Empfangen und Führe And I just said, “God, I just want to follow You. I want to live the way You designed me to live for von einem ab, beichte the rest of my life.” von Jesus C dir folgen. Lebens so hast.“ How did that affect your family? Wie hat da Well, I went out and I told my wife. And she just Nun, ich ka burst into tears and she threw her arms around es meiner me and she said, “You hard hearted son of a ausgebroch 12
Baptist! I have been telling you this for two years! Hello!” You know. But she said, “I told people I had no hope for my husband.” And they gave her a verse, Ezekiel 36:26. And all through this two years that I was doing this investigation, behind the scenes my wife was praying Ezekiel 36:26, “Moreover, I will give you a new heart, and I will put a new spirit within you. I will remove that heart of stone and I will give you a heart of flesh.” And, John, as I opened my life to Jesus, He began to change my values, my world view, my philosophy, my attitudes, my priorities, my parenting, my marriage, my relationships. All of this over time began to change for the good.
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The big one that I thought was Alison, your daughter. What happened there? Yeah, all she knew during the first five years of her life was a dad who was angry and drunken or absent. And as she watched as God began to change my life in front of her little eyes, after several months she went up to my wife, and she had actually said this first to her Sunday school teacher, she went up and she said “I want God to do for me what He has done for daddy.” And at age five she opened her heart, she received forgiveness through Christ, she became a Christian. Now she is 31 years old; she writes Christian novels. My son, same thing, came to faith and now he has got Masters degrees in Philosophy of Religion and New Testament. He is getting his Ph.D. in theology because he says, “Dad, there is a whole generation out there that doesn’t understand. This is not wishful thinking, this is not legend, this is not made up; this is historically true.” I said, “Son, you study and you learn and you go tell your generation.” John, Jesus changed my life, my eternity, my family. And that’s my story.
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verändert. Alright, folks, you have listened to Lee. And if Okay Leute you agree with the evidence, one thing that I am die Beweis concerned about is, some of you do agree with nie mit der this evidence, but you have never gotten into the noch zwieg problemat game. You are still on the bench thinking about these things. And there is a danger to that. There kommen, i has got to come a time when you entrust anvertraue und wenn yourself to Jesus Christ. You say it is true, and if He is the Savior, you are going to ask Him to save darum, Sie you. And, Lee, what’s the danger of people just Problemat sitting on the fence and not acting on this sich noch u evidence? Beweise re That’s the worst possible position, because they Das ist ein think they are okay, and yet their kids don’t look denken, da at their life and say, “I see a change, I see a ihr Leben o „Ich sehe e difference, I want that for my life.” Why is that? You could be sitting in a church for 15 years and Unterschie be in general agreement with some doctrine, but Warum ist einer Kirch not be an adopted son or daughter of God Almighty. You can do that, John, it is not hard. I Doktrinen did it November 8, 1981. Adoptivsoh Gottes sein nicht schw 1981 getan Alright, folks, I am so glad we are at this point. Okay Leute Because many of you, you need to do what Lee diesem Pu did. And I am going to give you an opportunity to Ihnen müs do that. I am going to ask Lee to say a prayer getan hat. similar to the one he did when he invited Christ zu tun. Ich Gebet aufz to come into his life and entrusted himself to Him. And this is the moment for some of you. Lee gebete This is the time where you need to say that in eingeladen your own words to the Lord. And you need to Jetzt ist de begin that personal relationship. It may be scary, Dies ist der but the fact is, it is the greatest thing in life. If the Worten de evidence is there, it is time to act on that diese persö evidence. And if you will, Lee, lead them in a mag Angst word of prayer and ask them to pray with you. es das Schö die Beweis akzeptiere führen sie zusammen I mean, what I prayed and they can pray this Was ich ge right now and just say, “Lord Jesus, I do believe beten könn 14
that You are who You claim to be: the one and only Son of God. I believe that You died on the cross to pay for my sin as my substitute so that I wouldn’t have to. Lord Jesus, I realize I have sinned, I have done wrong, I haven’t lived up to my own standard of morality, much less Yours, which is so much higher. I confess that. I don’t want to live that way any more. And right now I receive Your freely offered gift of forgiveness. I can’t earn it, I can’t merit it. I can just receive this free gift that You offer, based on what You did on the cross. Lord Jesus, from this moment on, please lead my life, because my life from now on belongs to You.” 22.10-22.44
Ankerberg
Folks, if you say it the Bible says, “Whosoever,” whosoever means anybody, it means you right now, “Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord.” If you heard that prayer and called on the Lord, the last three words of the verse “shall be saved.” It is something that Christ does to you, you can’t manufacture it. It is something that He does when He comes into your life. And you will start to feel Him; you will start to experience Him along the way now, if you really meant that. Just trust that He did it. And we are going to continue with more of the evidence next week. I hope that you will join us then.
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